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New Post 11/30/2005 4:00 PM
  Lance May
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New version 1.5 versus Firefox... 
It appears as though the new lovely smileys are loading about 300 to 500 pixels down and to the right in Firefox. You might want to try it and see if it's a quick fix. The web developer tools in FF should make it a bit easier to diagnose than IE would. Just thought I'd let you know. Nice update though, by the way.
- Lance "ji" May
 
New Post 11/30/2005 4:24 PM
  Lance May
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Re: New version 1.5 versus Firefox... 
Actually, after looking a bit deeper, I can see that Firefox is a bit more broken with SWIRL than I thought. The AJAX JavaScript seems to be lagging up FF really bad. I haven’t done it personally, because I’m at work and haven’t really had the opportunity, but FF has a really nice JavaScript debugger (I think it might be an extension you have go and get manually, but it’s well worth it).
- Lance "ji" May
 
New Post 11/30/2005 5:02 PM
  Will Gillen
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Re: New version 1.5 versus Firefox... 
I see what you are saying about the smiley div showing up on the lower right in firefox.  But it seems like it is only when the page is "edit" mode.  If you put it in preview mode it will work correctly.  I'll figure out what is causing it and get it fixed in the next version update.... Thanks for that find...

-- Will Gillen, Swirlhost Inc.
 
New Post 11/30/2005 5:12 PM
  Will Gillen
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Re: New version 1.5 versus Firefox... 
I have seen some of the script warnings you are talking about in firefox.  It appears that the ajax api that we are using throws some internal exceptions when determining some attributes, but it doesn't interfere with the ajax communication.  If you view the JavaScript Console in Firefox you will see a couple of warnings for each "SendMsg" routine, but it doesn't stop the messages from sending or being received....  I'll look into the api and see if there are any ways to stop the warnings.  Thanks for giving feedback on this.  We'll work on further evaluation of the Firefox in more depth in the future.

-- Will Gillen, Swirlhost Inc.
 
New Post 11/30/2005 5:19 PM
  Lance May
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Re: New version 1.5 versus Firefox... 
Thanks for the followup. Is there anything you can suggest about having the chat running in FF with regards to the extreme (full application) lag that happens about every three seconds? Anything I might want to turn on/off, install/uninstall, etc...?
- Lance "ji" May
 
New Post 11/30/2005 5:31 PM
  Will Gillen
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Re: New version 1.5 versus Firefox... 
What version of FF are you running?  We have been testing on Firefox for quite some time and do not see any application lag at all in our tests.  When you say application lag, do you mean you have several tabs open (one of which is the chatroom) and while you are browsing other websites you see lag, or you see lag within the chat messages, or what are you seeing?  Please let me know as I would like to troubleshoot this problem.

-- Will Gillen, Swirlhost Inc.
 
New Post 12/1/2005 11:54 AM
  Lance May
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Re: New version 1.5 versus Firefox... 
I apologize for not being concise. The lag I’m referring to is application lag, not network lag. With a chat open and other tabs (whether the tabs are loading data or not), the chat tab, and all other tabs in the active window will hang for ~2 seconds, then ~3 seconds later will hang again. This continues no matter if I’m typing, scrolling, highlighting, etc… I’m using the newly released Firefox 1.5 (non-beta).

http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-1.5&os=win&lang=en-US

If this is not descriptive enough, please let me know. I want to do anything I can to help.

- Lance "ji" May
 
New Post 12/1/2005 12:09 PM
  Will Gillen
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Re: New version 1.5 versus Firefox... 
Lance,

Do you have any firefox extensions installed (such as weather, etc.) that you have installed on your firefox instance?  If so, do you mind letting me know what those extensions are so that I can install them (one at a time) on my firefox 1.5 testbox.  I'd just like to see if there is any interference between our chatroom module's polling mechanism and any firefox extensions.

Thanks for continuing to help me track this down.  I have installed firefox 1.5 on our testbox (default with no extensions), and still do not see any lag or application hanging, so I do believe that it must be something about the way your firefox install is configured.

Also, if you have time, you could send me your users.js/prefs.js file.  Usually it is found in a folder similiar to (on winxp):
"c:\documents and settings\<username>\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<somerandomstring>.default\prefs.js"
I'd like to use the same prefs configuration and see if I see the same lag you mentioned.  Maybe there is a particular configuration that "breaks" the chatroom polling mechanism?

Thanks again.

-- Will Gillen
-- Swirlhost Inc.

-- Will Gillen, Swirlhost Inc.
 
New Post 12/1/2005 1:13 PM
  Lance May
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Re: New version 1.5 versus Firefox... 
Sure. I'd love to do all I can. Today will be extremely busy for me, but I will try to get that to you as soon as I am able. Thanks for your continued concern.
- Lance "ji" May
 
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